FUNDAMENTALISTS FIGHT FOR RIGHTS, WHILE PERSECUTING HERMETIC SCIENTISTS

The true tragedy of fundamentalism, is that most of the brightest, most
honest and compassionate souls, are repulsed by such anti-intellectual
unproven hype. Making the same mistake as Bertrand Russel in his
treatise, "Why I Am Not a Christian" and Mark Twain in his "Letters
from the Earth", they figure that if the prevailing fundamentalist
religion is hypocritical, then Jesus must have been wrong.

After all, what kind of liar would say that a Savior's murder and shed
blood, is our Salvation (from what)? And what kind of fool would say
that bread and wine are ACTUAL flesh and blood? And what kind of
psychotic would imagine that we are righteous, while the rejection of
Hermetic Science without testing it, ensues for all but the blind
majority to see?

And Jesus said: "They are blind in their HEARTS". Schizophrenics are as
Jesus said: "They are blind but say they see. Therefore their sin
remains." Like the Buddha advised: "When you KNOW you are sick, come
and see me". Are you well? Why the sweat on your fingers, when asked a
few simple questions? You can't pass a Polygraph Test like that! Jai
Om. Sai Ram

Supreme Court
AP Alito Debate Turns to Rulings on Religion
AP - Fri Nov 25, 7:07 AM ET
WASHINGTON - Though abortion has dominated the early politicking over
Samuel Alito's Supreme Court nomination, another hot-button issue —
religion — has cheered conservatives and worried liberals. In his 3rd
U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rulings, Alito has shown a deference
toward religious interests that some liberal groups think has allowed
unwarranted government support for faith. Supporters portray him as a
champion for the right to religious expression under the Constitution.

YOU HAVE NO FAITH IN THE PHYSICAL IMMORTALITY YOU DON'T BELIEVE

From John 6, in the Holy Bible:
"26": Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat
of the loaves, and were filled. (Five thousand were fed by the
miracle of Mind-Over-Matter - the best example of the Christian
Revolution.)
"27": Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat
which endureth unto EVERLASTING LIFE, which the Son of man shall give
unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
"28": Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work
the works of God?
"29": Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God,
that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
"30": They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that
we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?
"31": Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He
gave them bread from heaven to eat.
"32": Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you
the true bread from heaven. (Formerly, Jesus had said: "Had ye known
Moses, ye would have known me". This approach did not work, and he
said: "Ye cannot put new wine into old wineskins". It is difficult to
draw on fundamentalist traditions to prove Hermetic Science.)
"33": For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and
giveth life unto the world.
"34": Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
"35": And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that
cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall
never thirst.
"36": But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe
not.
"37": All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that
cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
"38": For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the
will of him that sent me.
"39": And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all
(i.e. Genetic Efflux) which he hath given me I should lose nothing,
but should raise it up again at the last day.
"40": And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which
seeth the Son (attains Genetic Rejuvenation), and believeth on him,
may have EVERLASTING LIFE (Physical Immortality - the hitherto
Forgotten Salvation from Death)): and I will raise him up at the last
day. (It doesn't happen until the Second Coming of His Revealed
Gnosis, during the Last Daze of Theological Blindness.)
"41": The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread
which came down from heaven.
"42": And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose
father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down
from heaven? ("No prophet is honored in his own country.")
"43": Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among
yourselves.
"44": No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me
draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
"45": It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of
God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the
Father, cometh unto me.
"46": Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God,
he hath seen the Father.
"47": Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath
EVERLASTING LIFE (Caps are mine, accentuating the Forgotten Promise
of Physical Immortality. - ed.)
"48": I am that bread of life. (They couldn't get it anywhere else.)
"49": Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
(That is, if the story of Moses was NOT a prophecy)
"50": This is the bread (of the righteous - dread of the unrighteous)
which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and
(literally) NOT DIE.
"51": I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man
eat of this bread, he shall LIVE FOR EVER: and the bread that I will
give is my flesh (Genetic Efflux), which I will give for the LIFE OF
THE WORLD.
"52": The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can
this man give us his flesh to eat?
"53": Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye
have no life in you.
"54": Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal
life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
"55": For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
"56": He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me,
and I in him. (The Holy Spirit enters the devotee.)
"57": As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so
he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
"58": This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your
fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread
shall LIVE FOR EVER.
"59": These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in
Capernaum.
"60": Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this,
said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
"61": When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it,
he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
"62": What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was
before?
"63": It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
"64": But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from
the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray
him.
"65": And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come
unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
"66": From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no
more with him.
"67": Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? (Since
Jesus came not collecting disciples for a false doctrine, there was
no consideration to change the True Doctrine.)
"68": Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou
hast the words of ETERNAL LIFE.
"69": And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son
of the living God.

URINE THERAPY IN THE TIPITAKA

Namaste Bhikkuji, and thanks for the knowledgeable reply. I shall
place my comments in capitals, interspersed with your remarks. OK? -
Dr. Jhani Picasso

From: Kumaara Bhikkhu <venkumara@...>
Subject: Urine Therapy in Tipitaka {Re: [shivambu] THE MEDICINE
BUDDHA} venkumara

hermeticscience wrote:
>Namaste, Bhikkhuji. Awhile back, I was told that there was a group of
>Buddhists in Taiwan, who drank their own urine and had a scriptural
>quote in which the Buddha recommended that urine be one's only
>medicine. I went to a website where the entire Tipitaka in English
>was online, with a "search" function, so I searched for "urine", and
>found indirect reference to urine as a medicine, but not the passage
>in which the Buddha actually recommended it.

That website does not have "the entire Tipitaka in English"; just a
relatively small portion of it. Here's an English translation of the
relevant part of the Theravadin post-ordination "admonition".

"Fermented urine as medicine" I AM SURE THAT FERMENTED URINE OR
PUTRID URINE WOULD PROBABLY BE TOXIC FOR DRINKING BUT EXCELLENT ONLY
FOR RUBBING. I STILL BELIEVE THE BUDDHA TAUGHT BOTH URINE THERAPY AND
URINE TANTRA. THE PROBLEM IS THAT ENTIRE CENTURIES PASSED BEFORE THE
DEADHEAD "DISCIPLES" EVEN BOTHERED TO WRITE DOWN HIS WORDS, AND, BY
THAT TIME, IT WAS TOO LATE TO RECALL A PRECISE RENDERING OF
SIDDHARTHA'S TEACHINGS. IF ONE OVERLOOKS THE MENTION OF "FERMENTED",
WE HAVE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION FOR URINE THERAPY. THIS CORRECT
RENDERING IS QUITE GOOD: "...URINE MEDICINE AS A SUPPORT.. FOR THE
REST OF YOUR LIFE, YOU ARE TO ENDEAVOR AT THAT." THEN, HE LISTS THE
SUPPLEMENTS WHICH CAN BE TAKEN DURING THIS LIFE-LONG URINE
FAST: "GHEE, FRESH BUTTER, OIL, HONEY OR SUGAR (OR MOLASSES)." MILK
AND JUICES ARE ALSO GOOD. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THIS URINE AND
SUPPLEMENTS, THE DISCIPLE WOULD BE "BREATHARIAN". THIS TEACHING IS
EXACTLY IDENTICAL WITH THAT OF JESUS! THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IN
BUDDHA'S EMPHASIS ON MEDITATION, WHICH JESUS PROBABLY THOUGHT WOULD
COME NATURALLY AFTER THE ASPIRANT ACHIEVED "SHAKTI PAT" (KUNDALINI OR
HOLY SPIRIT) FROM THE UNION OF THE MAHAYANA "PRAJNA AND UPAYA" OR
MALE AND FEMALE. WE HAVE SEEN THAT THE WORLD WANTS TO FORGET URINE
THERAPY AND LOVES TO REJECT URINE TANTRA, SO, BY THE TIME THESE
IGNORANT DISCIPLES WROTE THINGS DOWN, URINE HAD ONLY A PASSING
REFERENCE OF A MERE FEW LINES. DID NOT THE BUDDHA HIMSELF SAY THAT
THE TRUE DHARMA WOULD LAST ONLY 500 YEARS? - DR. J.

"Going-Forth has fermented urine medicine as its support. For the
rest of your life you are to endeavor at that. Nonetheless, if given
medicine, such as ghee, fresh butter, oil, honey, or sugar, you are
also allowed to accept it."

I'm also intrigued by the "fermented" bit. The original Pali actually
has that, i.e., "putti" (which might be related to the origin of the
Englishword "putrid"). Care to comment? A BIT OF SAD HUMOR MIGHT BE
THAT THE SANGHA HAD BECOME A "PUTTI PUTA", BECAUSE THE BHIKKUS HAD
PREVENTED THE RECORDING OF BUDDHA'S TEACHINGS FOR CENTURIES, IN ORDER
TO MONOPOLIZE TRUTH, SO THAT THEY MIGHT OBTAIN MONEY AND POWER FROM
THE NOW TWISTED TEACHINGS OF THE GREAT ONE. ALL SUCH PUTRID PUTAS ARE
NOT FIT TO BE DISCIPLES OR TEACHERS OF DHARMA, WHICH WOULD HAVE FARED
MUCH BETTER HAD SCRIBES BEEN WITH BUDDHA TO IMMEDIATELY WRITE DOWN
HIS WORDS. - DR. J.

Also, there is no mentioning of whether it be from a human (which is
of course more convenient) or animal, thus the varied interpretations
among current Buddhist communities. YES, COW URINE IS EVEN BETTER
KNOWN THAN HUMAN URINE. AYURVEDA DOES NOT USE URINE THERAPY (BECAUSE
THERE IS NO MONEY IN IT), BUT STILL USES COW URINE. IN THE END, ONE
MUST ASK, NOT IF THE BUDDHA TAUGHT IT, BUT SIMPLY "IS IT TRUE?" I
HAVE SHOWED YOU WHAT EVIDENCE (A LOT OF IT!) I CAN FIND TO VERIFY
URINE TANTRA, BUT IF ONE IS NOT INTERESTED IN THIS POSSIBILITY, HE IS
CERTAINLY NOT BUDDHA'S DISCIPLE, AND HAS NIXED HIS CHANCES FOR BOTH
NIRVANA AND SURVIVAL. - DR. J.

>I was attracted more to Mahayana for its Tantras, and I am the first
>to suggest that Tantra, when stripped of all its symbolic jibberish,
>is really another form of Urine Therapy, but obviously for a man and
>woman together. For this reason, I was searching for any reference to
>urine fasting by the Buddha in the Tipitaka.

I'm not very familiar with Mahayana or Tantrayana. But from what I've
learnt from a book by David Frawley (who is recognised as a Vedic
guru even by Indian scholars), the sex bit Tantrayana is but a very
lowly form of Tantrayana as a whole, but it has been over-exaggerated
by certain people to the point that now the word "tantra" commonly
has a rather perverted connotation.

DAVID FRAWLEY HAS SEVERAL FLAWS. FIRST, "HE IS RECOGNIZED AS A VEDIC
GURU EVEN BY INDIAN SCHOLARS". I HAVE LIVED IN INDIA AND HAVE LITTLE
RESPECT FOR THE VIDYA OF THEIR MODERN VEDIC "SCHOLARS". EXCEPT FOR
THE RASAYANA OR HERMETIC SCIENCE INTERPRETATION, TANTRA IS
UNIVERSALLY THOUGHT OF AS "SUPERIOR FORNICATION" BY A WORLD OF
IDIOTS. NOBODY IN MODERN TIMES HAS EVEN TRIED RASA TANTRA. IF I HAD A
SHAKTI MA, I WOULD TRY IT MYSELF, BUT I AM SURROUNDED BY INSULTS AND
THE MOST BESTIAL OF UNBELIEVERS, NOT EVEN FIT FOR DISCUSSING ANYTHING
REGARDING DHARMA. - DR. Jhani Picasso

SUNNI, SHIITE & CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS AGAINST EACH OTHER

Re: Violence in Iraq & Impending Civl War
They all oppose Hermetic Science and Non-Sectarian Theological Union,
so what do you expect? For the answer, read on. Like Helena P.
Blavatsky said: "There is no religion higher than Truth". This became
the motto of her Theosophical Society, based in Adyar, India. The
T.S. was one of the first Hermetic non-sectarian organizations,
dedicated to the study of ALL world scriptures, without slanderous
Fundamentalist Sectarian Prejudice. Jai Om. Sai Ram

ARE YOU A TERRORIST?

A long time ago, I realized that there would be no possible
explanation for Hermetic Science to fundamentalists: Not all the
Urine Therapy case histories, which now number in the thousands; Not
the many thousands of times that Soma Pavamana is mentioned in the
four Vedas, which are the Rig Veda (the oldest, approx. 2,000 B.C.),
the Sama Veda, amnd both the Shukla and the Krishna rescensions of
the Yajur Veda; Not the Satapatha Brahmana, which states that Soma is
both urine and seed; Not the Shivambu Kalpa Vidhi from the Damar
Tantra; Not the hundreds of quotes from the Holy Bible, the Book of
Mormon and the Nag Hammadi Library; Not the many quotes from the
world's oldest translated work, The Pyramid Texts; Not the mention of
Vajroli Mudra in the Hatha Yoga Pradipka; Not the prophecies of
Padmasambhava; Not the thousands of Alchemical Tractates by Catholic
priests and the Brotherhood of the Rosy Cross, nor all the other
quotes from world scriptures.

The fact that this evidence is not only ignored, but that I have also
been attacked with a cruel global socio-economic boycott, with all its
intentional insults, poisons, slanders and other harm-doing unto the
man who tried so hard to help them - This is the terrorism I have had
to contend with for all these past three decades. The millions of
terrorists involved, have struck terror into my heart. Now they
wonder why someone would kill himself just to kill some of them. I
knew a Jehovah's Witness, who, like them all, was so indoctrinated he
never could be converted to the notion that religion should
rightfully be approached with Scientific Method and without
prejudice.

In other words, we should have a knowledge of the scriptures of all
religions, and should coordinate this with honest Scientific
Scrutiny. Jesus is not against what is scientifically true.
Scientific Method merely means: "Let us not be deceived, and let us
not deceive". Anyone who doesn't like that is a proven liar. So, the
fundamentalist liar could not be converted to Truth. I told him
thirty years ago: "You can hide behind these fundamentalist lies and
terrorize me for now, but someday another fundamentalist liar will
come to reject and terrorize you, just as you have done to me.

Terrorists do not believe in the "Golden Rule of doing unto others as
you would have them do unto you", since they don't believe that: "As
you sow, so shall you reap", as Jesus said. So, they have no problem
attacking the good and "sucking up" to the bad, and they, the wicked,
believe they can persecute the good and get away with it. There is
even another fundamentalism to follow, and that is atheism. This will
be much worse than the present clashes between (fundamentalist) Islam
and Christianity. How could it have been avoided? By adopting the
reforms of which I preach. That failed, so now what? "Damage Control"
is to adopt Urine Therapy, Rasa Tantra, and all other survival
techniques, which address the original mission of survival, during
times of famine and plague - the exact practices these maniacs have
long been against. Jai Om, and prostrations to Jesus. Sai Ram